dungeons and dragons – Is there any specific order to the four Elements when people talk about them?

There’s no official order for the elements in D&D.

I’m assuming that, in the typical D&D setting, a person knowledgeable of the planes and the cosmology might use the order in which the four Elemental Planes appear, either clockwise (Air, Fire, Earth, Water), or anticlockwise (the opposite), with any element as a starting point. This however might be a personal preference of certain individuals / scholars, and is certainly not a rule in the lore.

Reference: in 5e, there’s a map of the planes at page 303, PHB.
The elemental planes show opposed air/earth and opposed fire/water as far back as the AD&D 1e PHB (p. page 121).
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(Advanced Dungeons and Dragons, Players Handbook, Gary Gygax, TSR, 1978; p. 121)

Talk to me about digital credentialing

I think that some companies here in the U.S., find value in being certified by the Better Business Bureau (BBB). I have never bothered with it, however, as I see it more as a B2C thing. There is still a fair amount of credentialing in the IT space. E.g., many businesses would rather buy a Cisco switch from a Cisco Certified Partner.

About five years ago, when I was in the telecom reseller space, we used to lead with the fact that were at the highest Avaya Partner level and led the homepage with that “badge.” It told our savvy prospects that we got the best discounts on product and also had the most training/expertise amongst the other vendors. It was a big deal to a lot of businesses.


Let’s talk Economics | Forum Promotion

So, another interest of mine is to do with Economics. I have found this subject extremely interesting for the last 2 years and it is so relevant in the real world, especially with the effects of the pandemic and coronavirus on employment, welfare, resources and on the future decisions made by governments and countries in such a time.
Personally, I enjoy a bit of both areas for economics. I enjoy learning about the theory of the firm and the graphs associated in explaining the topics in microeconomics. Also been learning to associate more maths behind some of the graphs such as with algebra, some calculus and hopefully some more advanced stuff over time. I also like reading some stuff relating to some macroeconomic topics. Personally, I have interest in learning about the Great Depression of the 1930s and also the Financial Crisis of 2008 and the policies used by the UK as well as the US to recover. I’ve also enjoyed looking into inequality and factors affecting economic growth. There is much more than that but this is all for now lol.
Most of the stuff I have learnt has been fairly basic and introductory though and I am hoping to learn more soon. Not just new topics but to expand my current knowledge of the theory I know.
Also wondered how many of you guys are interested in Economics? Would be great to see some stuff and maybe even learn a bit too :]


Interview: Q&A with Low End Talk Moderator Jcaleb (Jonathan Tan)

Interview with Jonathan Tan, LowEndTalk Moderator

Today we are keeping it in the family, with another interview with the Low End Talk moderator/administration team – this time around it’s Jonathan Tan (aka @Jcaleb). If you’ve not already checked them out over the past few weeks we’ve recently published interviews with current Low End Talk moderator Raindog308 and past administrator Jarland – both are worth the read. Many thanks to Jonathan for taking the time to answer some questions and share a little bit more about his background. So without further delay, here we go!

Tell me about your background? How did you get into IT?

I graduated from De La Salle University in 1999 with a degree in Computer Science. I experimented early in my career, trying different things: research assistant in university doing artificial intelligence stuff, 3d graphics programming, mobile game programming back in the days of Symbian, client-server coding with Delphi, mainframe stuff, and web programming. After around 5 years, I ended up sticking with Java development. I am now a developer in a multinational fintech company doing buy-side software.

Aside from my day job, I do other programming stuff for fun. I do PHP stuff, wordpress plugins and themes, all for my personal needs.

Have you worked in the hosting industry?

No. I am actually intimidated with Linux and sysad work. I envied my friends who knows how to setup things on the internet. I don’t even know back then what is a DNS or an A record. I am just plain ignorant.

It is actually through LowEndBox/LowEndTalk where I learned how to touch servers. It was actually very easy. And I am forever grateful with all the community members who helped me through the years.

How have you seen LowEndTalk evolve since you joined?

So much evolution as Raindog308 explained in his interview.

It was first an educational medium where all articles by LEA were so unique and valuable. Like who would forget how to config a server with 64MB RAM and host 18 websites? It was a game changing article that made significant impact on many readers.

And then the change of ownership from Lea to Chief, and Chief to CC were the drama ages. There was so much fun like people were as passionate as discussing politics on religion. There were so much debates and accusations.

Now is much more stable. But I know many old timers misses the LEA days. To be honest, articles and tutorials posted on LEB were not even 5% the quality of LEA’s output.

What are your thoughts about the recent changes at LowEndBox? What would you like to see happen in the future?

I am optimistic with Jon Biloh being the owner now. We share the same name so I know that he will do good.

What I hope for in the future is for kickass tutorials to come back. Make the website rock again. Hire some great sysads from the community to contribute epic stuff. I am praying that Jon will invest a lot to make this website a better place.

What is life like as a moderator?

Every long term member of LET knows that I stay away from controversy. I am an only child and I run from confrontation. So I just quietly stay in a corner just approving new applicants and such.

What’s life really like as a moderator?

Community members here are really fierce. Do something a little stupid and people will pounce on you.

What are some of your favorite moments of LET history?

I really don’t like dramas. What I love with my experience here is I came to know many people who are really gems. Ryan Arp, Jarland, Uncle Sal, Maonuque, Spirit, Anthony Smith, Maarten, and many others. Very good people and I like them so much.

What are your favorite technologies?

I am a simple guy with simple needs. I feel that NGINX solves more than 50% of what I need with servers. From hosting websites to doing live streaming, NGINX is a gift from heaven. The other chunk of what I do with servers is Java. I write my personal projects in Java and host them on VPS. Mostly I get good deals from the wonderful hosts at LET/LEB.

For my personal projects, I always use MySQL/MariaDB database. I am a relational database geek and I love working with MySQL.

What do you think of the hosting industry now?

Once upon a time, the the deals you get from LEB/LET are bang for the buck. But now, the price difference from the big boys went down. There is little difference in the spec you get from a big provider vs a Low End provider. It’s a cut throat environment from the past few years and growing fiercer as time goes by.

What advice do you have for hosting providers?

For any new comer wannabe: stay away from this business if you don’t have any angle to work with. I believe the margins are so thin and it’s so hard to compete in this space.

For those who are already in the business: I hope you keep on innovating. For example, Fran did great with Stallion and the slices – BuyVM just keeps on moving forward. It’s hard but there is no choice. Fight or die.

What do you do when not reading LET?

I am a very normal IT person. I am in front of my laptop the majority of my waking time. Big part of my day is spent on coding work and personal stuff. I also love reading financial books – Warren Buffet and Charlie Munger kinda things. I listen to podcast when I’m on the road – Business Wars, The Inverstors Podcast, Money for the rest of us, etc.

Oh yeah, I also have a wonderful son who is the love of my life.


Jon Biloh

I’m Jon Biloh and I own LowEndBox and LowEndTalk. I’ve spent my nearly 20 year career in IT building companies and now I’m excited to focus on building and enhancing the community at LowEndBox and LowEndTalk.

Ultra low latency hosting | Web Hosting Talk

I understand the latency requirements are difficult to achieve. Unfortunately, they are necessary, so I cannot compromise in that regard.

I have looked into several local data centers over the past month. Obviously they offer collocation. However I want to investigate other options. I am not even really talking about a managed solution. I am interested in leasing a service, as our usage does not justify the cost of having all of that hardware. It will not be running all of the time. Many days it will not be running.

It is so latency sensitive, that the hardware and network requirements become important. Thus, if I built it out, I probably would not have a firewall. Other parts I am not certain on, but I suspect that I would have a cross connect to a provider. This is complicated by the fact that our customers use several different providers.

I suppose I was hoping that a company has top notch hardware and connections that could be leased.

About SSL | Web Hosting Talk

HELLO! guys,

actually, I wanna lovely just be a ‘Reseller SSL’, is it possible ?

if is it yes!, give me short information about that

if it’s Not, don’t tire yourself for written




Engintron and Mod_deflate | Web Hosting Talk

Engintron and Mod_deflate | Web Hosting Talk

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I am looking for something that may or may not exist 🙂

Is there any tool that can be installed on CentOS 8 that would enable me to generate a snapshot of a complete VPS state (system+data)? The idea is to generate the snapshot and download it to my local machine. If disaster were to strike, I would simply fire up a brand new CentOS 8 VPS and, instead of running through the installation of all the various packages (and editing configuration files), I could simply upload and restore the snapshot, leaving me with a VPS in its last known fully functional state.

Does something like this exist?

Many thanks in advance for any pointers.

CloudLinux OS+ Features | Web Hosting Talk

Well, profitability really depends on how invested you are with your skillset and how useful those features are to your customers.

CloudLinux can do a lot of stuff. Can that stuff be accomplished without CloudLinux? Largely yes, but it depends on how invested you are in server administration and server programming. This speaks to the costs you put into a system.

Then it depends on how useful these “features” are for your end-users and what the plus and minuses are versus having these “features” and not having them. This speaks to revenue – how much income you get from the system.

If you get the same amount of income without these features as you would with these features… then you’re not generating any extra revenue by having the features. So all you are doing is sinking cost into the system by licensing the features.

Likewise, if you can duplicate or at least mimic (depending on the degree of likeness… personal preference) the features without paying for a license, then you can get the benefits of the feature without sinking any extra cost.

You’ve heard the phrase that time is money. Well, this works by investing time into learning a certain skillset (to duplicate or mimic the desired features) which equals (or compares to) the money spent to just purchase a license for the features. For me, time spent learning a skillset can provide ancillary benefits that come about from the learning process. Now, which is a better value? Learning or outright purchasing the license? That’s up to you. That weighs into the cost.

But really if you’re not going to see any extra revenue from the features compared to not having the features… the cost put into the feature is basically wasted.

Restoring original visitor IP | Web Hosting Talk

Hello guys

I am using Cloudflare as revers proxy and LiteSpeed as web server, I’ve enabled restoring original visitor IP in LiteSpeed console, Now i can see original visitor IP in access log (Raw access in cpanel) but when i run following command it still show cloudflare IPs instead of original IPs


netstat -anp |grep 'tcp|udp' | awk '{print $5}' | cut -d: -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -n

How can i check original visitor IPs by command line as live ( I mean while visitors are browsing or sending request to my websites)?

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